LSJL progress update 2-23-13

Unfortunately on one has been able to explain how I can retrieve x-rays from Sharp-Reese Steeley Online and the internet has been no luck either. The threshold required for growth to show up via x-ray is pretty high.  No micro-growth plates are going to show up.  So until someone can explain how I can access my x-ray records via the Sharp Reese Steeley medical system there can be no X-rays for now. I've been using an allen wrench and a hammer to test out Natural Height Grow's Pick Axe method in addition to LSJL: Bondhus 12116 1/2-Inch Long Hex L-Wrench. Since Michael is now performing the LSJL method maybe that is the solution to proving the LSJL method. My tests so far show that the allen wrench + hammer has been effective in creating sensations in the bone. In fact, I was worried that doing this may actually fracture the bone but I think it would take tons of hard taps to create enough residual strain to fracture the bone. And it may be necessary to fracture the bone as there is a different microenvironment involved in a microfracture versus a macrofracture. A microenvironment that is more chondrogenic. It's unclear whether this method has synergy with LSJL as drilling the bone in LSJL has been shown to reduce LSJL effectiveness. However this method may be a way to induce (-micro)fractures without penetrating the skin. There might be a region between micro- and macro-fracture that can generate a pro-chondrogenic microenvironment without the disability caused by a full blown macro-fracture.

The current progress pic is above.
Here's the last set of pictures.

I know it's grainy but if you look at these pics from 2010:

So here's me trying to match that measurement today at 13 1/4 inches:

The ruler was too far to the side so I tried to move it in:

You can see that 13 1/4 no longer quite covers end of the ankle to where the calf stops sloping in and where the next muscle slopes out.  And I think this is true even if you account for the account that the tibia is rotated slightly outward in the present pics.

You can also see an increase in ankle width even if the foot in the before pic is rotated slightly inward.  So I definitely gained some height with LSJL.

LSJL Update-Bone Length Increase

Here's the link to the last set of pictures.  Here's the latest pictures:

The ruler is over so I can make sure to get the right angle measurements.  Last Measurements:  We had the epiphysis at around 3 7/8".  The increments in the tape measurer are blurry so I've labeled some key points.  The finger experiment is going slowly.  The epiphysis now looks to be about 4 1/8".  In these pictures growth was put into question as the 13 1/4" was the distance achieved in both the before and after pictures.  However, in the before picture the ruler is at a diagonal.  The shortest distance between two points is a straight line therefore the before picture must be shorter than 13 1/4" indicating some growth.  There does seem to be any growth in the diaphysis of the bone in comparing the photos here and the after photos.  For instance, the maximum of the calf comes at about 8 and slopes downward to about 17 1/2.  In the pictures linked there the maximum of calf sarts at about 7 and continues sloping down until about 16.  Leading to a possible half an inch growth there.

It's not absolute proof of anything except that my measurement techniques need work.  But I'm working hard both on performing LSJL and learning the science behind it.  And on performing better measurements.

I have now grown to a full 5'10"

Previously, my height was hovering at about 5'9 3/4" to a hair under 5'10" now I finally hit a height personal record of 5'10".  Recently, I revealed that I've gone up in clamping to about 1 minute and that seems to have resulted in some success.  I am using a 50lbs dumbell instead of a 75lbs dumbell for 30 seconds, I think that's helped me focus more on getting more compressive force with the dumbell. Here's my limb pics all the way from November.  My tibial measurement was 16 1/4" now it's about 16 1/2".  So my part of the 3 month challenge has been successful so far:

Now I know the pictures are not optimal, that's why I'm working on the finger length videos but I've been hearing that it's not enough of an increase to excite people.

Some people have reported not getting results with LSJL.  I encourage you to post pics of you not getting results for one.  And then do a clamp test on your finger to see if you can gain length.  You can gain a little bit of length there just with pinching but you need to clamp(Bar-clamp is superior to C-class for fingers) for more gains.  If you can gain finger length then you can know if your technique is correct.

I have been wanting to grow taller for over five years so I don't clamp with 100% mental efficiency all the time.  So you don't need perfect technique to grow.  If you don't grow after three months it's okay if you stop.  I realize that people will need an overwhelming amount of proof to believe in a grow taller method.

Sky's Limbcenter Clinic should have been covered by media outlets.  Kojima's clinic should have received western media attention. Sky's Clinic has disappeared despite having promising elements.  Bone stretching is provable on animals by a layman.  Just apply Sky's levers to a Sprague-Dawley rat and measure the increase in bone length.  It would be expensive to get all the tools but it would be doable by a layman.  And you wouldn't get to see the direct effect on the Type I Collagen fibers without specialized equipment.

The LSJL studies should have also gotten more coverage.

Basically, us height seekers have our work cut out for us.  And I'm probably going to have to gain quite a bit of finger length in you tube videos to inspire people's imaginations.  It's probably not going to be enough for a bunch of people to gain a little bit of height.  So if you don't gain height in three months then feel free to take a break for a while until the method is more refined.  But please post before and after pics and do some clamping on your finger as well.

Analyzing my Height Increase Results

A lot of people have been questioning my Lateral Synovial Joint Loading Height Increase Results.  I know I have measurement error but I was hoping that some sort of photograph expert would be able to ascertain any limb lengthening effects that occurred.  I guess not but I'm working hard on getting that finger proof which should be extremely solid proof and extremely hard to fake.  Here's the first tibial measurement I made with LSJL:

Now I don't go all the way to the end of the femur but we should still be able to use this measurement here to see if there was an increase in bone length.  Here's my last reported measurement as of october:

The tape measure doesn't end at the same spot along the knee but it begins at the same spot at the ankle.  The latest picture starts at 16 1/4".  I slide a ruler down to the very beginning of the knee(around where the calf ends) and I get 4 inches.  That's 12 1/4" from ankle to knee.  Doing this with the first picture the ruler slides down to about 3 cm(you can't see the inches).  Which is a little less than an inch and a fifth.The ankle starts at 13 1/4".  Which would lead to about 12 1/4".

But!  You'll notice that there is a much more pronounced part of the tibia to the side of the knee.  Which could mean that the height increase from LSJL came from there so...

Here's a picture from May 20th:

In this picture, the ruler starts at the same location at the knee and ends(approximately) at the same location of the ankle but the ruler only goes up to 15 1/4" meaning a 1 inch length increase between then and now.

Here's a picture with the ruler starting at a position on the ankle much closer to the position in the latest photos:

This is at 15 3/4".  I know the photo is blurry but you can count which would mean a 1/2" increase between then and now.

If you look at the first picture and the pictures now you can see that the majority of the height was in the epiphysis(which is where the stem cells would differentiate into chondrocytes).  For some reason, growth isn't occurring by the ankle even though you can generate much more relative pressure.

I'm still working on that finger proof and others at the LSJL forum are working as well but I hope you take the time to analyze the photos and see the length gain in the knee epiphysis.

I added another half inch of height thanks to LSJL

I am now a hair under 5'10" and my tibial length is now 16 1/4" which is the same as it was on August 31th the last time I did a bone length increase update on the tibia.  It could be that I am evening out the limb length inequality between right and left leg and am growing taller that way.  The limb length inequality caused by the contra-lateral leg adapting to loading of the other leg.  Since I noticed that I am now focusing more on my right leg and as the discrepancy evens out I am growing taller.

So despite not getting a lot of results for a while I preservered. Looks like I just have to keep doing LSJL and grow taller 1/2 an inch or so at a time.  Now I just have to develop a cheap way to perform an Electromagnetic Field Based routine.

Height Increase Progress Update: Alternating Limbs may be Key

Some people have reported unilateral growth including Richo and his bone length growth.  I've been focusing more on my left leg since it's the one that I've been using for measurements(I'm right handed so I wanted to bring up my weaker side) and I wanted to see too if I had been getting unilateral growth.

My left ankle is bigger and my left leg is a little bit longer.  The overall bone quality is much higher for my left leg.  My routine involves 30 seconds with a 75 lbs dumbell and 30 seconds of tapping with a 10 lbs dumbell(Read more about this Height Increase Method).  With this each day I would alternate starting with my left side and starting with my right side(i.e. one day I would start by loading my left ankle with a 75lbs dumbell and the next day I would start by loading my right ankle with a 75lbs dumbell).  With the table clamp I would always load my left limb first.  Now I am going to be alternating days of starting with the right and left side to see if it makes a difference.

Why would it make a difference?  In response to loading, adaptions to the actin cytoskeleton occur.  These adaptations to the actin cytoskeleton lower the mechanical sensitivity to load.  These adaptations occur rapidly.  By loading one limb first, the actin cytoskeleton may adapt lowering the effectiveness of the loading regime on the other limb.

Here's an old email I got from Hiroki Yokota about local versus systemic effects:

"Your point about systemic vs. local effects is a good question. We used two types of controls – one control is a separate animal without any loading, and the other control is a contralateral control in the same animal (e.g., a right leg is loaded, and a left leg is non-loaded as a contralateral control). These studies indicate that joint loading has a strong local effect compared to a contralateral control. However, a contralateral control seems to receive some benefit of loading compared to the other control animal that does not receive any loading. Thus, a working hypothesis is that joint loading provides significant local effects on the loaded limb (e.g., loaded femur and tibia in response to knee loading), but it can induce systemic effects. The mechanism for systemic effects can be potentially mediated by circulating molecules (as you suggest like growth hormone)."

 So loading on one limb can have an impact on the unloading limb(including possibly remodeling of the actin cytoskeleton).  Muscle too responds via the actin cytoskeleton so we can see if there are similar adaptations in the contralateral limb after doing say bicep curls with one limb.  We will have to investigate this further and could possibly use muscle studies as a basis.


The ramifications:  Each day alternate between limbs(Right limb only, left, etc.) or alternate which limb you load first.

Shortness decrease update with LSJL

My attempt at decreasing my shortness is coming along slowly but surely.  Previous results are here: Bone Length Increase.  Lots of people have reported small incremental gains(including myself) and then the gains taper off.  I think that might be due to telomere shortening.  LSJL upregulates genes in the TGF Beta, ECM, PI3K, and Wnt pathways.  The TGF-Beta pathway results in telomere shortening(TGF Beta isn't bad, I like to think of it as paying a toll, you get a cell division you have to pay with a telomere).

Astralagus(or possibly TA-65 as Astralagus may not have sufficient quantities of TAT2) may reverse telomere shortening.  Post epiphyseal fusion, LSJL either works by new osteoblast bone deposition beneath the subchondral plate or by organic development of chondrocytes(all that's needed is Type I collagen & hydrostatic pressure which is generated by LSJL to cause differentation of mesenchymal stem cells into chondrocytes).  Why I and others experienced rapid growth and then slowed(many have reported noticing growth of millimeters within the first week) is that the telomeres of the MSCs are too short to allow for further cell division.

Pre-fusion you not only want to simulate telomeres but you want to stimulate DNA Methylation, cGMP, IGF-1, Testosterone, etc.  Of course, telomerase can be stimulated by things like aerobic exercise as well which explains why height gains have slowed but not ceased as the body might need time to replenish.

Pic number 3 is a before calcaneus(heel bone) pic.  Pic Number 4 is current.  The ruler is there to show the difference between the stimulated and unstimulated part of the foot(unfortunately I didn't think to do this in the before pic).  Stimulated meaning performing LSJL with table clamp for 30 seconds and tapping with 10lbs dumbell for 10 seconds daily.  But, there's the confounding variable that there's an awful lot of skin at the bottom of the foot(but that compresses when standing unlike(mostly) the bone).

Right now I'm doing 30 seconds clamp, 30 seconds 75 lbs dumbell, and 30 taps with 10 lbs dumbell.  I'm pretty consistently 5'9 1/2" which is up from my initial 5'8 1/2" but no big height gains lately.

Height Growth with LSJL update

Here's pictures from last height increase update.  Tibial measurement is about 16 1/4" and fibula measurement is 16".  So Tibial measurement is up about 1/4" since three weeks ago.  Height difference isn't significant enough yet to show up in photos so I'm going to wait a little bit longer on that.  I'm taking melatonin, chondroitin + glucosamine, and starting Lithium.  Melatonin is taken because it upregulates levels of TGF-Beta 1 which tells stem cells to differentiate into chondrocytes.  I've noticed a lot less nerve irritation since I started chondroitin and glucosmaine which suggests that it is effective at increasing the resources available for cartilage repair(more cartilage separates the discs and makes it harder for a nerve to be impinged).

In contrast to the pictures taken a few months ago, you can see both ankles are bigger and there's a greater gap between where the calf starts to widen.

LSJL Update

Minimizing the effects of stretching and posture are hard.  I never thought they made much of a difference because I always compare my height against a door and I'll pretty short next to a door but standing next to a tape measure it can make quite a bit of difference.  At exactly the right posture I'm around 5'9 1/2".  Based on head tilt and other issues it can go about an inch below that. My Tibial measurement is a little over 16" versus last time I measured it was a solid 16 so there's some development there.  Here's last times pictures:  Bone Length Increase.

Here's the before pictures of before I started using the table clamp on the calcaneus.  Looks a little thicker, obviously the light is different and that's due to me being a digital camera noob.  Someone asked about getting a bigger jaw, if you want a bigger chin then you want to perform joint loading on your chin so you get that periosteal shear resulting in a bigger chin.  If you want to get a longer jaw then you want to load below the articular cartilage attaching the chin to the rest of the skull.  The Mandible is a weird bone like the distal phalanges(last bone of the finger) where it has properties of both irregular and long bones.  There's no periosteum covering the top ends of the jaw giving it long bone like properties.

Actually, I've grown around 1/2" with LSJL

Okay, there were some measurement error problems but I find a good way to effectively measure height.  So I'm 5'9" up from 5'8 1/2" but not 5'9 1/4" like I thought.  Here's the previous pics:  Bone Length Increase.  Here's my height measurement:  I have a bump on my head(bone) so that's why it doesn't quite look like 69 inches but if you incorporate the hair which covers the bump then you get 69.

The tape measure is going up to 69 inches.

So you can see that it's the same place on the wall as with the other picture.  Here's tibia and fibula pics:

So now when I grow to 69 1/4" I'll be able to prove LSJL.

I"ve started growing again by 1/4" with LSJL

I am now 5'9 3/4".  Here's the data from a while back:  Bone Length Increase | 3 Months 1 Week In.  It's been a while since I've grown with LSJL but I've been increasing my intensity with tapping with 10lbs dumbell, pressing down harder with 70lbs dumbell, and started using the table clamp.  I can even feel a larger separation in my knee.  Before I had to use my fingernail to feel the hyaline cartilage growth plate line in the epiphysis of my tibial bone but now I can feel it with my fingers.  If anyone can come up with an excuse for me to get a knee x-ray with my insurance covering it let me know.  Fibular measurement is 16 1/4" and Tibial measurement is 16 1/2".  Last time I took measurements:  Fibula was 16" and Tibia was 16".  Here's the pics:

It makes sense that eventually you have to increase the pressure you use as the trabecular bone in the epiphysis may model and become less apt to microfracture.  You can see that my eye level is slightly higher than the picture taken here.  And, I'm even standing further back in this picture than the other.  I'm going to have pictures of using the table clamp later today on the how to perform LSJL part of the page.  I think it might be more effective than dumbells, however, with a dumbell you can get rid of it immediately whereas with a table clamp you have to unscrew it to dump it.

I got my table clamp at Home Debot so I could test it out first.Bessey TK-6 Table Clamp.  It is available on amazon however.  My table clamp is 6 inches which is enough even to do my shoulder.

LSJL Update

I'm almost recovered from the virus.  I may be gaining some millimeters of height.  Still using 70lbs dumbell.  It is very effective for the legs but it is just too big for the arms.  I'm thinking of starting to test out a table clamp.  Table clamps are available for pretty cheap like so Bessey TK-6 Table Clamp.  Tapping is okay but I just think that loading is more effective.  They do list the measurements for the table clamps so have to find one that can fit around the elbow.  The table clamp can also be used to do the shoulder.  You can't really do the part of the clavicle closest to the sternum because it's too big.  Anyone who knows more about clamps can give their recommendation.  I wanted to show some pictures of my ankles.  The hyaline cartilage growth plate line is visible on an x-ray.  Sometimes it is blurry but it is the part of the bone that is the whitest and is the same texture of whiteness as the articular cartilage at the end of the bones in the x-ray.  But the growth plate line is really high up on the epiphysis so it perhaps may be best to load as high up on the epiphysis as possible is using a clamp.  Using a dumbell allows for testing other factors like periosteal progeintor cells because it covers my areas.  Anyways here's my ankle:

You can see redness in the bone(remember we are targetting RED bone marrow).  You can't really see it in the knees because there is more fat there than in the ankles.  But the redness indicates to me that LSJL is effective in causing trabecular microfracture and stimulates fluid flow transporting stem cells to the hyaline cartilage growth plate line.  I don't see this redness in my wrists so that's why I want to try the table clamp.

Height Boosting Progress with one week off of LSJL

Well I've been sick for the last week and so I haven't been performing LSJL as everything that's anabolic for your body cells is also anabolic for viral cells.  Here's last Weeks Pictures: Bone Length Increase | 3 Months In.  I didn't get any height increase so the height increase from LSJL must occur fairly rapidly after the stimulation.  When I return to LSJL I'll have to see if there's some kind of conditioning effect and if I get more results than normal after going back.  I tried going to the doctors office due to my virus as an excuse to get my height measured but they didn't have a device to measure height at least that I could visibly see.  Maybe it was broken or something.  Here's this weeks pictures.  I also took one from a sitting position to see if that way can see more visible gains.

Stature Increase Progress with Lateral Synovial Joint Loading

Here's last weeks pictures: Bone Length Increase | Two Months Three Weeks In.  I'm trying to figure out how best to generate proof.  Getting a tattoo or marking myself with a marker wouldn't work because bone grows down from the hyaline cartilage growth plate line into the cortical bone so if I marked the epiphysis of the bone there wouldn't be any change unless my epiphysis got bigger(due to the same processes that make short and irregular bones bigger).  If I marked a part of my diaphysis then I would have the same measurement inaccuracies as before.  If I went into a doctor's office, I would have to gain a significant amount of height because height matters a lot on how much you're tilting your head when you get down to the inch level.  I can't scale measure using the pictures because I used different magnifications on the pictures, I also adjusted the picture so I got all of my shin bone into the picture.  So I'm going to have to keep working and keep working with people(I've talked to some people who I'm very confident are performing Lateral Synovial Joint Loading correctly).  Here's this weeks pictures:

I did not increase my height this week

I'm used to growing every other week at this point.  Still 5'9 1/2" and my nose is still up to 5'4 1/4".  Here's last weeks pictures: Bone Length Increase|Two Months Two Weeks In.

Fibular epicondyle to tibial tuberosity was about 16" and tibial epicondyle to tibial condyle was about 16" up about 1/4" from last week.

1/4" of height gain with Lateral Synovial Joint Loading

Here's last weeks pictures: Bone Length Increase | Two Months One Week In.  Length of lateral ankle to tibial tuberosity stayed the same at 16" while the length of the medial ankle to the medial epicondyle was 15 3/4".  My height increase from 5'9 1/4" to 5'9 1/2".  I measured up to my nose which was about 5'4" and is now 5'4 1/4".